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英國報章這樣評價中國的數理考試...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


#good2#0  #bad#0
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Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:06 PM
本貼文共有 39 個回應。
The RSC, which has published online examples of science papers taken by Chinese teenagers, believes that the government has to address the situation "to ensure the country has the right skills for the future".

The Chinese exam papers in chemistry and maths were taken last year by pupils studying at the same level as England's GCSE students.

Earlier this year, Ofqual, the Government's exam watchdog, said there were "significant concerns" that GCSE and A-Level standards were slipping.

Ofqual said English literature, maths and science exams were often failing to push the brightest pupils.

In physics GCSEs, Ofqual reported a "general reduction" in the mathematical demands placed on students and "predictable and formulaic" coursework.

The Chinese mathematics papers contain topical questions about the Olympic Games, held in Beijing last year, as well as earthquakes - in May last year, China experienced an earthquake in its Sichuan province.

In one multiple choice question, the paper asks: "As of 19 May 2008, 21,600 Chinese and foreign reporters became registered reporters of the Beijing Olympics, amounting for the greatest number of reporters in the all previous Olympic Games. The scientific number 21,600 is expressed as..."


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:07 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:08 PM
Dr Richard Pike, RSC's chief executive, said: "In Britain most of the questions with some sort of mathematics or problem solving are very straight forward. With the Chinese ones you've got to think a little bit further, you can't just stick down the answer. Many of the more complex questions in the papers we have seen involve a number of steps. The student really has to think things through.

"Some questions can be done by anyone but as you work through the paper they get harder and in that sense they are more demanding of the brighter kids than you would in Britain. I would say it's almost a step below from the Chinese questions."

A Department for Children, Schools and Families spokesman said: "The facts speak for themselves - independent international comparisons show that English schools are consistently among the highest performers in maths and science in the world. We know there is more to do so children enjoy science more - that's why we are investing £140m into strengthen teaching and stretching the brightest students."


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:08 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


不如巴打你講講:)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:16 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


不如巴打你講講:)


Eastern Mathematicians are good at deductive algebra and intuitive geometry,
while Western Mathematicians are good at intuitive algebra and deductive geometry.
That's why in GCSE Maths, there exists many conceptual questions instead of just calculation, while in Senior High (Beijing), many have to rote lots of formulae of indefinite integrals (calculus)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:23 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


不如巴打你講講:)


Eastern Mathematicians are good at deductive algebra and intuitive geometry,
while Western Mathematicians are good at intuitive algebra and deductive geometry.
That's why in GCSE Maths, there exists many conceptual questions instead of just calculation, while in Senior High (Beijing), many have to rote lots of formulae of indefinite integrals (calculus)


For example, even in London GCE (UCLES), there exists some question:

Describe how shortest path algorithm (Graph Theory) is derived with examples.

(Usually such a question really tests your understandings and steps rather than result)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:24 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:26 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


The reason behind is that they rote marking schemes.
Don't believe that in highly collective society like Japan and China, there would have any mathematicians of original works instead of imitation.


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:28 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


不如巴打你講講:)


Eastern Mathematicians are good at deductive algebra and intuitive geometry,
while Western Mathematicians are good at intuitive algebra and deductive geometry.
That's why in GCSE Maths, there exists many conceptual questions instead of just calculation, while in Senior High (Beijing), many have to rote lots of formulae of indefinite integrals (calculus)


For example, even in London GCE (UCLES), there exists some question:

Describe how shortest path algorithm (Graph Theory) is derived with examples.

(Usually such a question really tests your understandings and steps rather than result)


Usually this question is difficult enough. But this can be solved by several instruments of applied Maths. The common example is A2 Computing where the concept of Queue and Stack in Data Structure can be applied to illustrate shortest path algorithm. Believe it or not, IVE ICT Software Engineering students (41303[A]) also faces similar question (but they simply compute the answer instead of instruct the principle in prose)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:30 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


對, AL出PROVE題 如A.M.>G.M., 阿SIR都係叫我地齋背...

不過CE既A MATHS/ AL既APPLIED MATHS就冇齋背呢個問題


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:33 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5593940/Chinese-science-exams-more-interesting-and-demanding-than-GCSEs.html

Chinese science exams more 'interesting and demanding' than GCSEs
Maths and science exams taken by students in China are more "interesting and demanding" than their British GCSE counterparts, it has been claimed by the Royal Society of Chemistry


What if compared with the 4 Singapore GCE A-Level Maths? (Pure+Stat+Mechanics)


不如巴打你講講:)


Eastern Mathematicians are good at deductive algebra and intuitive geometry,
while Western Mathematicians are good at intuitive algebra and deductive geometry.
That's why in GCSE Maths, there exists many conceptual questions instead of just calculation, while in Senior High (Beijing), many have to rote lots of formulae of indefinite integrals (calculus)


For example, even in London GCE (UCLES), there exists some question:

Describe how shortest path algorithm (Graph Theory) is derived with examples.

(Usually such a question really tests your understandings and steps rather than result)


Usually this question is difficult enough. But this can be solved by several instruments of applied Maths. The common example is A2 Computing where the concept of Queue and Stack in Data Structure can be applied to illustrate shortest path algorithm. Believe it or not, IVE ICT Software Engineering students (41303[A]) also faces similar question (but they simply compute the answer instead of instruct the principle in prose)


The principle is astound:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijkstra%27s_algorithm


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:34 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


對, AL出PROVE題 如A.M.>G.M., 阿SIR都係叫我地齋背...

不過CE既A MATHS/ AL既APPLIED MATHS就冇齋背呢個問題


but the question is NOT in-depth enough.
The following PMaths-level question can be difficult and common in China, but if in Britain, step-by-step subquestioning will be done:
Prove that a Real function of purely complex variable, f(i) = ai^2 + b^i + c = 0, can be transformed to f(x)=|a|(x-i)^2


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:39 PM
好多英文xx(

有冇巴打可以HIGHLIGHT啲重點出黎?#adore#

我英文廢:o)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:41 PM
好多英文xx(

有冇巴打可以HIGHLIGHT啲重點出黎?#adore#

我英文廢:o)


Sorry. There is no real Chinese Mathematician.
May be you can seek help from Chinese Physicists like the principal of HKUST. #cn#


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:42 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


對, AL出PROVE題 如A.M.>G.M., 阿SIR都係叫我地齋背...

不過CE既A MATHS/ AL既APPLIED MATHS就冇齋背呢個問題


but the question is NOT in-depth enough.
The following PMaths-level question can be difficult and common in China, but if in Britain, step-by-step subquestioning will be done:
Prove that a Real function of purely complex variable, f(i) = ai^2 + b^i + c = 0, can be transformed to f(x)=|a|(x-i)^2


咁HKALE PURE MATHS LONG QUESTIONS都會將難題目分幾PART問:)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:46 PM
根本係個讀書風氣係咁
你將成套GCSE扲黎香港
d人都係一樣背


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:46 PM
Note that Western Mathematicians always do calculation with graphs.
Chinese learners know only mimicking steps from tutor/book instead of introspection.
That's why in HKALE, many gals can get an A in Pure Maths, but they turn out to be repeating the freshman level maths in, say, PolyU.


對, AL出PROVE題 如A.M.>G.M., 阿SIR都係叫我地齋背...

不過CE既A MATHS/ AL既APPLIED MATHS就冇齋背呢個問題


but the question is NOT in-depth enough.
The following PMaths-level question can be difficult and common in China, but if in Britain, step-by-step subquestioning will be done:
Prove that a Real function of purely complex variable, f(i) = ai^2 + b^i + c = 0, can be transformed to f(x)=|a|(x-i)^2


咁HKALE PURE MATHS LONG QUESTIONS都會將難題目分幾PART問:)


But after 2005 step-by-step pitfalls, the questions are rather simple (esp. the last question in 2007 HKALE PMaths Paper 2) even with no hints.


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:47 PM
根本係個讀書風氣係咁
你將成套GCSE扲黎香港
d人都係一樣背

Yes. According to Keirsey Temperament Sorters (psychometrics), in Eastern cultures many traditionalists (Guardians) in 4 temperaments dominates the educational institutions. In Hong Kong, who rules Educational Bureau have NO qualification of Public Administration or even any certificate of General Education fuck


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:49 PM
幾中肯#good#


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:52 PM
根本係個讀書風氣係咁
你將成套GCSE扲黎香港
d人都係一樣背

Yes. According to Keirsey Temperament Sorters (psychometrics), in Eastern cultures many traditionalists (Guardians) in 4 temperaments dominates the educational institutions. In Hong Kong, who rules Educational Bureau have NO qualification of Public Administration or even any certificate of General Education fuck


咁我咁睇, 題目夠淺/冇得背就唔會有人死背
如GMATHS/AMATHS/APPLIED MATHS(至少我果間冇人會以背既方式考呢幾科)
咁當然要背D公式


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:56 PM
根本係個讀書風氣係咁
你將成套GCSE扲黎香港
d人都係一樣背

Yes. According to Keirsey Temperament Sorters (psychometrics), in Eastern cultures many traditionalists (Guardians) in 4 temperaments dominates the educational institutions. In Hong Kong, who rules Educational Bureau have NO qualification of Public Administration or even any certificate of General Education fuck


咁我咁睇, 題目夠淺/冇得背就唔會有人死背
如GMATHS/AMATHS/APPLIED MATHS(至少我果間冇人會以背既方式考呢幾科)
咁當然要背D公式


So recently, in Physics Paper 2B (effective from 2007), many questions involves derivation of formulae with graphical illustration. (of course, sort of calculations are required to verify the derived result)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 2:58 PM
老實講, 香港高級程度數學寫得差( omitting too many steps with no textual annotations or even arrows), 不如大陸書(不過大陸書冇英文 :o) )


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 3:01 PM
老實講, 香港高級程度數學寫得差( omitting too many steps with no textual annotations or even arrows), 不如大陸書(不過大陸書冇英文 :o) )



Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 3:01 PM
成篇野我只睇明幾句..大學生WO(我話我自己)


Reply Reply icon 本文張貼於 8/29/2009 3:03 PM
The Chinese mathematics papers contain topical questions about the Olympic Games,

[sosad] [banghead]


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